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Littlebigman
11-10-2009, 06:16 PM
ď I don't want to LOOK like I can pick up a car, I WANT TO BE the guy that can pick up a car.- RB Trout.


Interview: RB Trout

We have a lot of interesting folks in here. Though we all share the commonality of training and nutrition, there are some interesting stories to be told of how and why we joined BBR , how we are using the knowledge and support of BBR, and where we plan to take it from here.

The following is an interview of someone who I have always found to be as informative as he is amusing, the undisputed big guy (or should I say big fish) of the forums. For several years now in the forums, we have all shared many good laughs and exchanged lotís of useful information with RB . I have a lot of questions I have wanted to ask of him and thought the interview would be a good way for others to also see what he has to say.

LBM: Congrats RB on another year of PRís with your training and recently turning 47' in good health. First of all, where are you and what is your day job? What else can you tell us about your past life?

RBT: Thanks, LBM. Am I 47 already? It doesn't feel like it. I mean just last year I turned 46.
I live in sunny, southern California and, frankly, I could do with less sun.
I've got a desk job - I'm an IT professional. I manage the IT department for one of the US' top nurseries. It's a 45-50 hour a week job.
I was always very skinny - fly weight in wrestling class. I always wanted to be bigger. I got my first weight set at the age of 12 and started lifting then in my Dad's garage. I built a couple of pulley machines and had a pretty good setup for a teenager.
I was always a really good athlete and could compete in anything I played.
I lifted all the way through my second year of marriage, when I decided I didn't have the time to keep lifting. I turned into a skinny-fat guy - a skinny guy with a beer belly.
About 10 years ago, I was fly fishing by myself. I went to jump across a small stream in a meadow, slipped, landed in the stream and hurt my back. At that point, I decided that I needed to get into shape. That's what started me off lifting again.
I'm fortunate that at my age, I can lift like I do and I've found an amount of strength that I didn't know I had. I worried, at first, that I might get too big and my wife wouldn't, lets say, prefer it. That's not the case, at all. She likes the fact that I'm this big and especially loves my arms.

LBM: How did you get into the career of IT professional?

RBT: My cousin had his own company doing network support, installs, comuter repair, etc. and I spent a couple of years working with him here and there.
He got hired by the company I'm at now and hired me as a data entry clerk. I also helped him with computer/network stuff. That was 1992. He quit in 1996 and I was moved up. I've been here ever since.
The "bad part" would be that I'm on call 24X7 basically and that I frequently work late evenings or early mornings before people are working.

LBM: This past year you launched a very successful workout journal, "RB's Effort to get 700# in 2009"
http://www.bodybuildingrevealed.com/members/showthread.php?t=9620
outlining your training and other factors of life that has been interesting and fun to follow. Of course your regular visitors JHalstead and Ronrat7 are part to blame for that as well. Any comments on the thread and where it has gone?

RBT: Well, some of the BBR members had asked how I trained, so I decided to post up my training log. I've kept one at home on my computer for quite a few years now, so it was easy to copy and paste it here.
As I guessed, especially with JH, I'd get lots of smart comments; but it's all in fun and it makes for interesting reading.
Two things I also figured on was:
1) I'd be able to share how I train with others and it might help them out; and
2) Others would see how I train and very possibly help me out. Ron, JH and Marcus have been a big help. I always appreciate the input.
LBM: I for one have learned from the thread that you also love to fish and play basketball. Can you tell us a few things about the way you do these, and any other past times youíre into?

RBT: I'm a die-hard fly fisherman - especially for trout. I've been tying much of my own flies since I was 14. I've fly fished all around the west/northwest US and plan on doing it until I can't.
My cousin recently got me into bass fishing, which has been a blast. My first thought after only 1 bass trip was that I can't wait to try it with a fly rod.
I've been playing bball most of my life. In jr. high and high school, I played all the time. In high school, I was actually on the JV team and enjoyed it very much.
I typically play every Saturday for 2-4 hours. From May to September, I play on Tuesday evenings, as well. I'm not nearly as fast as I used to be, but I love to play and I can really set one heckuva pick now that I'm bigger.
I play piano, organ and keyboards (bass on a keyboard, as well). I started playing the piano at age 5 and stuck with it. I don't play as much as I'd like to any more, but I'm going to try to rearrange my schedule to allow it. My favorite type of music to play is ragtime - Scott Joplin.
One other thing - I like writing. I've done a couple of magazine articles on fly fishing and a couple of small articles on lifting.

LBM: Not much of a fisherman here, I tried fly fishing once and got the line so hopelessly tangled and tied up in knots, Dad had to cut the pole & reel free of it all. However, you write an article about bass fishing with a fly rod and Iíll read it.
Thatís really cool that you play music too.
Also, didnít you say once that you are a moderator in another forum? Can you tell us something about that?

RBT: Next spring, when the top water action is at it's best, I'm already planning on it. The title of something like, "A Fly Fisherman's First Bass".

Yes, I am a mod on another site. I joined up on another forum that leans towards powerlifting. After a year or so, I complained to the guy in charge about some of the BS that many of the guys posted. He asked me to join the mod team and help them out. I've been a mod over there since.

LBM: At a time in life when already some of our classmates from high school are pushing up daisies, here you are strong and getting stronger than many men in their 20s and 30s. You must walk around grinning about that, right?

RBT: I am pretty proud of that fact. I lifted for years and never made much progress. I got really ripped and strong for 125 pound, but basically, I didn't really know what I was doing and I didn't eat enough.
After several years of no training, I'm using time constraints as an excuse here, I started back. I was lucky to have several guys 'take me under their wings' and teach me. From there, I just really got into it.
I have a couple of Tshirts I like to wear around to see if people really pay attention to other people. One is "500 Pound Deadlift Club" and the other is "600 Pound Squat Club". Surprisingly enough, I've actually had several people ask about how I train and even ask for pointers to help them out.

LBM: If I remember right werenít you more focused on bodybuilding a few years back? When did realize that power-lifting was your thing?

RBT: That's correct about the bodybuilding. I'd do body part splits of all different kinds. One thing about me that differed from the guys I used to workout with - I've always loved to squat.
About 4 years ago, I decided to try a version of the infamous Madcow 5X5. It had squats and deadlifts in it. I'd never done deads before and the first few times I could barely pull 95 pounds.
I scheduled my first 5X5 to last 16 weeks. Then I took 2 weeks off and started another 16 week 5X5. At the end of my second 5X5, I was pulling near 500 pounds. Basically, in 2/3 of a year, I went from not pulling to pulling near 500. That was a wake up call to me.
I then started putting more powerlifting type exercises in my routine. I realized more and more that I really liked powerlifting training and decided to go full-bore in that direction.

LBM: What other forms of strength training if any, have you tried?

RBT: I've tried many different styles of training. Obviously, from above - Madcow's 5X5, PRRST (Eric Broser), DoggCrap Training and many "bodybuilding" routines from the mags.

LBM: In regards to training: Who are your favorite coaches, mentors, greatest influences, books?

RBT: My favorite coach was my first personal trainer - Slick and his friend Carlos. He (they) taught me quite a bit about training, diet and supplementation. They're two good guys that went out of their way to help me out when I first got back into lifting.
The two that I've probably read the most from are Louie Simmons and Mark Rippetoe. Although I don't necessarily agree with everything Ripp says, I think he's one of the best basic coaches there is.
Everybody loves Arnold, but my favorite was always Big Louie Ferrigno. I always looked up to him (he's taller than me) and admired him.
Reading material? I've got so much reading material on diet, lifting, etc., my wife gets a bit irritated about it. Of course the ones I've really read cover-to-cover several times are Starting Strength, Practical Programming and The Westside Book of Methods.

LBM: What benefits of lifting do you carry over into in everyday life?

RBT: Goal setting and learning how to be focused. Those have helped me accomplish other things, as well.

LBM: What were you doing before BBR? What brought you here, and how much has it changed your approach to training and nutrition?

RBT: I actually spent time on tons of other websites, always looking for lifting and diet help, but never stuck at one site. Once I started nosing around here and convinced myself to purchase BBR and join up, the rest is history. BBR can't get rid of me now. BBR has helped me most with nutrition and learning about supplementation. Of course, as I mentioned earlier, the input from everyone on my log has been invaluable.

LBM: I like to look at things by the numbers, At the begining of the year you posted your stats and goals as:
Height - 6'
Weight - 256#
Bench 1rm - 325#
Deads 1 rm - 655#
Squats 1 rm - 615# (1/12/09)

Goals:
Weight - 240 +/-
Bench - 400#
Deads - 700#
Squats - 700#

How close are you to those goals now?

RBT: My weight is about the same and I'm not too worried about that. I average around 16% body fat. That might be high to some, but it doesn't bother me.
I know I won't hit the 400 pound bench I'd hoped for. Training my bench 2x a week Westside style caused too much shoulder pain, so I switched up to doing 5/3/1 on benching and sohp. I'm hoping to be back near 325 early next year and hopefully past that by the end of next year.
I've concentrated more on my deads than squats, but currently, my best dead is 690 and I'm quite sure I'll get over 700 before the year's out. Squats, I'm currently at 635 for a single, but squatted 625X2, so I'm sure I could probably get 645-650 right now. As for 700 by year's end on the squat, doubtful, but mid-next year, yes, I'll get it.

LBM: 16% bf ainít that bad. At the present weight of 256 lbs and pulling 690lbs, thatís 2.7 times bw! Considering that you are packing around some extra weight, youíve got some impressive fibers in there. If you did get down to 240# you would be one tough guy to beat in the DL.

RBT: The funny part about the bf% is that I look like it should be more. My stomach protrudes (distended) but is hard as rock. The lower portion has the extra fat.
One of the guys last Saturday jokingly punched me in the stomach and was very surprised. He told me that he thought I was just a fat, strong guy, but that my belly is hard as rock. It was a nice, albeit, off-handed compliment.
If I dropped down to 240 and could keep this strength, yeah, I'd be hard to beat.....if I competed.

LBM: OK, not to put on pressure but the public goal you made of that 700 lbs from where you were seems very ambitious for a guy in his late forties. Most men our age are considering backing off but here you are looking for new PRs.
I know you are very close to getting it and I hope you can, but even if you donít, will you be content with that?

RBT: No, it would drive me nuts. I have to hit my two 700 pound goals, I'm obsessed with it. Barring any unforeseen injuries, I will get over 700. If I never bench 400 or over, I can live with that

RBT: Do you ever say to yourself: ďWhy am I doing this?Ē Has the effort to make a 700# dead lift lost any of the fun it was at first?

RBT: I ask myself that question every once in a while. Then I'll see some guy our age that can hardly move out of his own way or some skinny, weak person acting like they're big and strong and that thought just goes away.
I would have thought that it would be more of a chore reaching the goal and the fun would be gone, but it isn't. I really enjoy training hard and pushing myself.

LBM: What is the gym like where you train, and when do you do it?

RBT: I train at a Ballys, which isn't the greatest place for a powerlifter, but it works. I've got several good friends that I know I can rely on for a good spot and some laughs here and there.
I workout from 5:00 - 5:45 (or so) am. I'd workout longer, but it takes a long time for me to cool down, so I cut it shorter than I'd like to.

LBM: Do you train solo or with a partner, how is that going for you?

RBT: I train alone. I've had a couple of workout partners of the years and offers lately of several more. When they find out how I train and that I probably don't have time for them, they always back down. If I need a spot, I've got no problems asking for one; at the same time, if some one needs one, I'll help willingly. I actually prefer working out alone now. I don't have time to wait for others and I don't want to spend 1/2 my time changing weights. I WON'T do what anyone else wants to do because it probably won't fit in with my training. I've kind of painted myself into a lonely (sniff) corner......but I don't mind that.

LBM: Know what you mean, even though I havenít done anythng great, I would have been far worse off using people around me where Iím at for workout partners.

RBT: The guys I used to workout with are still very close friends that I see at the gym. The problem was (and is) that they do body part splits. When I worked out with them, they'd say to do as much weight as I could even if my form was bad. That's actually how I hurt both shoulders a bit more.

LBM: Many of us have LOLíd at some of the the gym life you have reported in your training journal. What are the your most memorable or funniest moments at the gym you could share?

RBT: The "badass boys", as I call them are always entertaining. The one time I decided to do some hammer curls, they were over at the DB rack using 25s and 30s, grunting loudly and flexing in the mirror. I walk to the other end of the rack where the big DBs are and grab the 80s to warm up. They both watch me in the mirror, especially when I grabbed the 110s and did a set of 3. Funny, they got much quieter after that.

Another time a kid decided to deadlift next to me and try to keep up. That was a mistake. He did fine at 135. He started straining at 225, he even cranked out a good fart while pulling. He got a couple at 315 and as I went to 365, he decided to try, as well. If I recall, it didn't leave the floor......mine did, no problem. I felt a bit bad for him 'cause I'm sure he thought he could beat the old guy. His dad was there and later asked if I'd been pulling long and how much could I pull. When I told him, he said he'd mention it to his son.

There's one other that pops into mind. A girl, very nice looking, that all us older pigs....I mean guys always stared at asked me for some help one morning. She was using one of the bosu balls that's only the top 1/4 of the ball (sorry, I don't know or care what it's called). She asked me if I thought it felt soft. Now she was about 5'7" and 135 pounds, a little thing. I come plodding over and stepped onto it, like she asked. The plug shot out across the gym and it went flat. I told her it didn't feel soft to me. I don't recall seeing her at the gym after that.

LBM: Those are hillarious!
How does your training and passion for lifting affect family life? What do friends, neighbors, workmates say about your training and goals?

RBT: My wife is the best. She's very understanding. I'm up at 3:30 am to eat and then hit the gym and I'm usually in bed by 8:30 pm. Not a whole lot of time for her during the week, but she's OK with it. The weekends belong to us. We don't have kids (too bad for them), so I don't have to try to juggle them into the mix.
My family doesn't really understand. None of them are really goal setters or really push themselves to doing much, so telling them that I pulled 690 two days ago means nothing. My nephew (he's 30) is the exception. He always wants to know how I'm doing and always roots me on.
Most of my friends think I'm nuts for training like I do, same with co-workers, but I really don't care too much what others think. There is a lady at the office that trains hard. She frequently asks me questions on exercises and/or form. She's cool and understands my work ethic.

LBM: Whatís next for you? Any meets in the future?

RBT: What's next? I don't know. Several of the BBR gang think I should compete. I don't know, I really train for myself and I've always had a mental hang-up with formal competition. Alan Thomas (APT Pro Wrist Straps) has asked me to compete and has sent me several signup forms for So. Cal and Vegas meets, but I just don't know. I doubt I'll ever compete.
I've talked to it with my wife and she's in full support. The thing that gets me is that I'm obsessed with it now, how bad will I get before a meet? She kind of agreed on that point.
What else is next? When the economy comes back and I have some more money in my pocket, I'll probably get a couple of personal training certs. Not that I'm gonna quit my day job or anything, but I'd like to do it.

LBM: I wouldnít have dreamed that you of all people would consider a PT certification.
It would be great to have a certified PT at a gym who actually knows and can teach powerlifting. I say go for it!

RBT: I've been looking into it. I think 2 certs would be the ticket. My wife's all for it, I just need to plan it out and save up the extra cash for it.

LBM: What words of advice would you give to anyone starting power lifting?

RBT: Start slowly. Learn proper form on EVERYTHING. Leave your ego at the door to the gym. If you don't eat, you won't grow - bigger or stronger. You get big outside of the gym, don't over-do your training. Lift big to get big and strong. Squats and deadlifts are king.

LBM: Just one more favor to ask RB. My Momís 1990 Nissan Sentra that needs an oil and filter change. I canít get to it from the top side and donít have a car lift, so you suppose you could come by this Saturday and ........?

Final words:
My thanks to RB for indulging us with the answers. Speaking for myself, as the interchange developed it was as if opening a door and finding 3 more questions to ask on the other side. However, I am leaving that opportunity for you the viewer to expand on any question or topic you would like to ask of RB that we didnít cover. Címon heís a big guy, I think he can take it.

burbmantom
11-10-2009, 07:58 PM
Great Job guys! It is interesting to get to know the stories behind the screennames.

elissalowe
11-10-2009, 08:47 PM
LOL - Congrats LBM... after all these years, you managed to get RB to come out of hiding! Great pics, RB - these should go into the Gallery, too. :clap:

Irishdeerhunter
11-10-2009, 09:57 PM
The best thing I have read since Jack the Ripper!:D Only joking, good stuff and now that we know what you look like RB, expect a visit.:D

rojobo
11-10-2009, 11:02 PM
Great stuff, RB and LBM. Worth the wait! :clap:

So questions from the sideline....
What is the biggest fish you have caught, RB? :D
More seriously, what goal will you set after you reach the 700 mark?

Wes
11-10-2009, 11:16 PM
Awesome effort RB & LBM (though i am expecting an interview series now).

Is very interesting to read training methods etc that are quite different from my own, at the end of the day our mental tougness is what keeps us all here, kudos again.

rbtrout
11-10-2009, 11:55 PM
Great stuff, RB and LBM. Worth the wait! :clap:

So questions from the sideline....
What is the biggest fish you have caught, RB? :D
More seriously, what goal will you set after you reach the 700 mark?

Biggest fresh water fish was a 46" pike that weighed in around 25-30 pounds. Most pike of that length are 18-20 pounds, so this one was a big-boy.
Biggest trout I've caught was 26" +/- and about 6 to 6.5 pounds....out of about 2-3 feet of water in a stream.
Biggest salt water fish was a 48"-50" sand shark that weighed in around 35 pounds (that I remember).
The coolest 3 fish caught were golden trout (very rare), a 4+ pound lahontan cutthroat trout (from a float tube) and the "sail fish of the north" an artic grayling.

All of these were caught on fly rods.

What am I going to do after 700? As long as I stay injury free and my joints can take it, probably shoot for 750.

alwaysimprove
11-11-2009, 04:46 AM
That was an awesome interview guys. Great to get to know people in here. I've met a few members as well and that was cool too, without actually meeting you RBT I now feel like I know you

MAKSTER
11-11-2009, 08:42 AM
I agree with all. Great interview. It's nice to hear about life outside the gym.

Great work LBM and RBT.

Littlebigman
11-11-2009, 07:02 PM
It is interesting to get to know the stories behind the screennames.

Yes for sure, but it dropped me like a lead sinker when I learned that RB Trout isn't his real name.:o

Irishdeerhunter
11-11-2009, 07:26 PM
Whose next in line for the interview exclusive? I think a woman's perspective would be good. Keep it balanced that way. Maybe rojobo, LD when she comes back onto the forum or the beauty queen herself Elissa:wub:

elissalowe
11-11-2009, 09:21 PM
Whose next in line for the interview exclusive? I think a woman's perspective would be good. Keep it balanced that way. Maybe rojobo, LD when she comes back onto the forum or the beauty queen herself Elissa:wub:
LOL - in due time. Personally, I like the idea of prioritizing long-term members - plus newer members who've made significant contributions to the forum. I'm in the spotlight enough, and - if they cared to - folks could piece together quite a bit of my personal history from existing posts. Thus, I'd just as soon see interviews with JH, AI, rojobo, andresrobalino, yourself, etc. (not to mention LBM himself). ;)

Simon
11-12-2009, 01:12 PM
Very cool idea LBM.

Elissa pointed this out, I have no objection to a little sub forum here if you like .."Little Big Mans BBR Member Interviews".

You can then have one thread per interview to keep things a little organized and easier to work within .

If you want it, just let me know.

Simon

Littlebigman
11-13-2009, 05:54 AM
Whose next in line for the interview exclusive? I think a woman's perspective would be good. Keep it balanced that way. Maybe rojobo, LD when she comes back onto the forum or the beauty queen herself Elissa:wub:


LOL - in due time. Personally, I like the idea of prioritizing long-term members - plus newer members who've made significant contributions to the forum. I'm in the spotlight enough, and - if they cared to - folks could piece together quite a bit of my personal history from existing posts. Thus, I'd just as soon see interviews with JH, AI, rojobo, andresrobalino, yourself, etc........... ;)

The way I see it, anyone's fair game and mods are members too:cool:


Very cool idea LBM.

Elissa pointed this out, I have no objection to a little sub forum here if you like .."Little Big Mans BBR Member Interviews".

You can then have one thread per interview to keep things a little organized and easier to work within .

If you want it, just let me know.
Simon

Thanks Simon, Itís a nice thought. I will think some more about it and PM you back.:cool:

Irishdeerhunter
11-13-2009, 05:44 PM
The way I see it, anyone's fair game and mods are members too:cool:



Thanks Simon, Itís a nice thought. I will think some more about it and PM you back.:cool:

Interpol are on my case, so, that rules me out.:clown:

rbtrout
11-13-2009, 05:53 PM
Oh brother.

Littlebigman
11-13-2009, 07:42 PM
Biggest fresh water fish was a 46" pike that weighed in around 25-30 pounds. Most pike of that length are 18-20 pounds, so this one was a big-boy.
Biggest trout I've caught was 26" +/- and about 6 to 6.5 pounds....out of about 2-3 feet of water in a stream.
Biggest salt water fish was a 48"-50" sand shark that weighed in around 35 pounds (that I remember).
The coolest 3 fish caught were golden trout (very rare), a 4+ pound lahontan cutthroat trout (from a float tube) and the "sail fish of the north" an artic grayling.

All of these were caught on fly rods.

What am I going to do after 700? As long as I stay injury free and my joints can take it, probably shoot for 750.

My dad loved to fish but seemed to have the worst of luck. I hated sitting in the boat for hours, drowning bait with a troll motor. We never caught much except the occasional snag on a submerged log or weeds. :(
Only one time out on the salt water with another guy who really knew how to fish, did we hit some good size salmon.

Creek fishing on the other was the best of times. The fish were small but it seems like there was one behind every rock that would at least bite. We didn't creek fish very often, I think, because Dad had a bad ankle and didn't like to walk very far over rough ground.

What I would give to be a boy and creek fish with him again .....

rbtrout
11-30-2009, 03:09 PM
What I would give to be a boy and creek fish with him again .....

I cherish the fishing done with my Dad every summer. He's 72 and slowing down, but still wants to get out there once a year. I really dread the time when he can't.

rbtrout
11-30-2009, 03:10 PM
In the post about the fish caught, I forgot 2 of the coolest - my first fish - small mouth bass with my Dad and all the others that I get to catch when we fish together.

Ron
12-01-2009, 12:40 AM
HOW THE HELL DID I MISS THIS POST??? It's been out for 2+ wks now and just now I'm seeing it....WTF!

Anyway, read through it and thought it was some good info on the big guy and a job well done by the interviewer as well. I'm seeing an ESPN offer in the future.

RB, what forum do you moderate? Is it this one:
http://www.straightmuscleguys.com/NMAccess.html


Sorry, couldn't resist. Should have seen the one I was first going to put a link up for, then thought I'd keep it PG-13. And before you ask...NO I didn't have that already saved in my bookmarks. Anyway, shoot me a PM.

You've came a long way and the end of the road ain't nearly in sight yet, so do it to it big guy.

rbtrout
12-01-2009, 12:49 AM
Nope, that's not the one. I don't know how they got those pics of me, though......

Ron
12-01-2009, 12:58 AM
I thought the one in the white speedo looked familiar. Does that mean the guy in the top corner in the ball hat is LBM???