View Full Version : Looking for oppinions on my body type

04-19-2004, 01:21 AM
Let me start out by telling what my stats were at my best.

2 years ago I was 148lbs, power lifting with a schedule that looked like this:

Monday: Chest-3excersizes (bench or d-bell bench, incline d-bell bench, flys), 3-4sets of 4-6reps per excersize (except last excersize which was used as a lighter stretching excersize for about 10-12reps).

Tuesday: Back-4excersizes (d-bell rows, pull upps, shrugs, hammer strength pulling machine) 3-4 sets of 6-8 reps per excersize (except pull ups which was 3 sets of 15-15-12).

Wed: off

Thurs: Legs-squats for 6 working sets of 10-12 reps, leg extensions 4 sets 8-10 reps, leg curls 4 sets 8-10 reps

Friday: arms-2 curling excersizes for bis, and 3 tricep excersizes, d-bell curls 3 sets 8-10 reps, skull crushers 3 sets 6-8 reps, hammer curls 3 sets 10-12, weighted dips 3 sets 12-15, tri pull downs 3 sets 8-10.

sat sun off

Cardio- 45 minutes eliptical trainer mon, tues, fri early morning

The thing I don't understand is that while doing so much cardio, I was at my strongest with a bench of 335 (280 for 6), squat at around 415 and a dead lift at around 425 (I was training for powerlifting events).

I am now gaining a lot of my strength back, but at a body weight of 180 my bench is at 260 for 6, squat 295 for 10...point being that I'm not nearly as strong as I was at a much lower weight and bf %.

I was also eating 6 meals a day, but 3 of the meals were a can of tuna with a small amount of light mayo, and the other 3 were hard boiled eggs on wheat toast in morning, 4oz chicken on wheat bread w/mayo for lunch and lots of salad and fish or meat loaf or steak for dinners. This is all just an average, I changed up my workout routine often.

Could this mean that I nead the extra cardio, or lack of calories to keep fat off, but could still maintain muscle easier, or maybe it just means I should be able to get to be stronger at the weight I'm at if I just stick to this routine (e-book's) longer.

I've always seemed to hold onto fat and muscle (or maybe I should say strength since I never realy got very bulky with muscle) easily and have always had trouble losing fat.

So far this program is working great for me, and I just got back into it consistantly for the last 2 months at a bf% of 24. I know I "should" be on a fat loss routine, but I've noticed that that's where I tend to burn out and quit, but if I do a bulking routine, I have no problem with lasting 45 minutes on an eliptical machine and feel great afterwards.

I havn't been doing the cardio as per the ebook's recomendations, but have recently been thinking that maybe my body type would benefit from the extra cardio, especially since doing the 45 min cardio is a lot easier for me than cutting out the calories.

I'm also thinking that I'm still in the "beginner" stage as far as losing fat and gaining muscle is concerned because I've been so lazy since 2 years before these last 2 months.

Sorry if this is confusing; or if you need more info let me know.

Thanks if anyone actually took the time to read all this and figgure something out from it ;)

04-22-2004, 10:07 PM
Tom Venuto talks about various body types in his ebook Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle. There are 3 basic body types: ectomorph (thin, lose fat easily, fast metabolism), mesomorph (athletic build, good metabolism, easy to build muscle), endomorph (rounder body type, slow metabolism, hard to lose fat).

He goes into further details about these body types and the various combos. It's called somatotyping. He talks about how each of the body types and combos should eat & exercise.

From what you wrote, it seems maybe you're an endo mesomorph, which is what I am. The portion of which is which, I have no idea. You'll probably have to continue to experiment. There are also other books written that talk about the different body types. I like how Tom writes, though.

I didn't want to rewrite what he wrote. I think there's a link in this site to his website for his ebook. Otherwise, it's at


04-23-2004, 12:24 AM
Hey, thanks for the reply.

i already kind of figgured the same thing about being an endo mesomorph, but I've never heard of doing 45 minutes of cardio, 3 days a week being so effective as when I was doing it 2 years ago when I was at my stronges and most muscular.

I also read your post about the stretching article I found, and agree with what you said about trying it for yourself and see what's best for you.

I think that could also apply to what I'm asking about in this post. I was most confused about how it was possible for me to get to where I was while doing so much cardio. I'm also thinking that maybe if I hadn't been doing the cardio, I may have seen even better results as far as strength and muscle size are concerned. Just because I was at my best ever, doesn't mean that's the best I could have been.

Interesting site, but with the expertise I seem to be able to tap into with this forum and ebook, it might be sort of redundant to purchase this other ebook.

I'm not saying that it wouldn't be beneficial, just with the tight budget I'm on, I have to watch how I spend money ;)

Thanks again mdolls68,

04-23-2004, 12:09 PM
Alan, I think if it was me I'd stick the cardio back in my routine. If it was working for you before it seems kind of crazy not to use something that you know has worked for you in the past. At least try it and carefully track your results. If cardio works for you then what's the problem? Or should we be saying "Energy Systems work"? General cardio, intervals, if it was working before, try it again for 12 weeks and see for yourself.