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alanjlamore
08-01-2004, 10:35 PM
Hey, my wife has had bad back pain for about 5-6 years now since a car accident and it's gotten worse since we had our first baby.

She was in the Navy and the doctors (can't stand military doctors BTW) told her that there's nothing they could do about it and that she has to live with the pain, did some tests (MRI and blood work) and basically made her feel like they thought she was over-exagerating her pain or just lieing about it.

Well the doctor that looked at her after her accident (non-military) told her that she could expect her back pain to worsen within the next few years, or even upto 10 years from the accident.

The military woudn't let her even get to a medical review board to get any kind of disibility pay, even though her job was in supply, carrying heavy boxes... which could have worsened the problem.

Anyway, I've been reading about these magnetic copper bracelets that say they can help reduce pain, but I never heard it from a non-paid advertisement.

Anyone know if this has a placebo type of effect, or if there's some credible evidence that it can take pain away?

Thanks,

WillBrink
08-02-2004, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by alanjlamore
Hey, my wife has had bad back pain for about 5-6 years now since a car accident and it's gotten worse since we had our first baby.

She was in the Navy and the doctors (can't stand military doctors BTW) told her that there's nothing they could do about it and that she has to live with the pain, did some tests (MRI and blood work) and basically made her feel like they thought she was over-exagerating her pain or just lieing about it.

Well the doctor that looked at her after her accident (non-military) told her that she could expect her back pain to worsen within the next few years, or even upto 10 years from the accident.

The military woudn't let her even get to a medical review board to get any kind of disibility pay, even though her job was in supply, carrying heavy boxes... which could have worsened the problem.

Anyway, I've been reading about these magnetic copper bracelets that say they can help reduce pain, but I never heard it from a non-paid advertisement.

Anyone know if this has a placebo type of effect, or if there's some credible evidence that it can take pain away?

Thanks,

The bad news is, no, there is no data at all to support the magnet for pain products, and I recall a study that found no effects. The good news is I would not take the docs word on your wife, there are many things you can try and depends on the causes (neuro muscular, discs, psychological, etc) ranging from massage, accupunture, etc. Let me say this about that, first place to start with is buying the best beds, chairs, etc you can find for the back. I highly recommend products from the Relax the Back stores. Find one in your area at: http://www.relaxtheback.com/

I have their bed, a zero gravity chair, and other stuff, and they help a great deal. Don't know how much you can spend, but a hot tub was one of the best investments I ever made.

alanjlamore
08-02-2004, 04:04 AM
Thanks Will, I've been willing to try almost anything to help my wife with her back problem, but I know there's a lot of scams out there.

I was in Tacoma, WA on travell for my job when my wife was in LA, CA and she got sucked into going to a "witch doctor" for her back pain due to a recomendation from her sister. The old guy told her that a lot of the healing had to do with her belief that it would work, then he put an ointment on her back with a writen "prayer" that she couldn't wash off for 3 days.

She wanted to believe so bad, and said it worked, but about 4 days later the pain wa back to normal, I think due to the ointment wearing off.

Another thing her donctor told her was than it could take around a year or more of almost no activity for her back to heal enough to stop the pain. This made me think that a lot of atrophy could occur, making matters worse.

I was thinking about accupuncture, a chiropractor or the temper-pedic bed that brags about their NASA technology and so far the only thing holding me back is the high prices, along with the lack of knowledge. I'm willing to pay as long as I know it's going to work.

I'm definitely goin to look into the relaxtheback site, but I just wish I had a better diagnosis from her doctors about her back. It started with a car accident, but may have been agravated by many other things, like poor posture, poor lifing techniques, pregnancy, lack of stretching, and not giving it enough time to fully heal.

The relaxtheback site you recomended seems to be very informative, so I'm going to look into the different types of problems my wife is having and see what they recomend. I found a section of the site that describes her pain almost exactly the way she describes it, so that's reasuring.

I realy appreciate the advice. You probably saved me even more money than what you saved me on nutrition information with your ebook ;)

WillBrink
08-02-2004, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by alanjlamore
Thanks Will, I've been willing to try almost anything to help my wife with her back problem, but I know there's a lot of scams out there.

I was in Tacoma, WA on travell for my job when my wife was in LA, CA and she got sucked into going to a "witch doctor" for her back pain due to a recomendation from her sister. The old guy told her that a lot of the healing had to do with her belief that it would work, then he put an ointment on her back with a writen "prayer" that she couldn't wash off for 3 days.

She wanted to believe so bad, and said it worked, but about 4 days later the pain wa back to normal, I think due to the ointment wearing off.

Another thing her donctor told her was than it could take around a year or more of almost no activity for her back to heal enough to stop the pain. This made me think that a lot of atrophy could occur, making matters worse.

I was thinking about accupuncture, a chiropractor or the temper-pedic bed that brags about their NASA technology and so far the only thing holding me back is the high prices, along with the lack of knowledge. I'm willing to pay as long as I know it's going to work.

I'm definitely goin to look into the relaxtheback site, but I just wish I had a better diagnosis from her doctors about her back. It started with a car accident, but may have been agravated by many other things, like poor posture, poor lifing techniques, pregnancy, lack of stretching, and not giving it enough time to fully heal.

The relaxtheback site you recomended seems to be very informative, so I'm going to look into the different types of problems my wife is having and see what they recomend. I found a section of the site that describes her pain almost exactly the way she describes it, so that's reasuring.

I realy appreciate the advice. You probably saved me even more money than what you saved me on nutrition information with your ebook ;)

Being clear that medical advice/diagnoses over the net has great limitations, and not knowing what her particular problems are, things worth using and or looking into:

Massage
Acupuncture
Chyropractic
Various products found at Relax the Back stores (and others I assume)
Heat therapy (via hot tubs, etc)
Low level laser light therapy
Prolotherapy
Various exercise/stretching techniques (yoga, etc)
Books by Dr John Sarno
Traction therapy

I am sure there are more, but thatís what comes to mind. You didnít say what the diagnoses was so itís general advice that may or may not apply to her situation. Some things like hot tubs, beds, etc are applicable to any back pain situations, where others may not be advisable. Also, remember, if she is not willing to take the lead on her own treatments and be pro active about it, nothing you do will help her.

ray2nite
08-02-2004, 07:34 PM
Alanjlamore, I can really sympathize with you and your wife. My advice would be to take your wifeís MRI and get it diagnosed by as many doctors as possible.

When I first started having pain in my back, I brushed it off thinking it was an anomaly and would go away. A year later I was taking painkillers almost daily and going to physical therapy; I still thought the back pain would go away. A year after that I could not get out of bed in the morning until my Tylenol 4 took effect. Pretty soon, even with the Tylenol 4, my wife had to put my shoes and socks on for me. I was essentially a cripple. I could not even sit in a car seat anymore. I had to lie on the backseat while my wife drove me around. The point of my story: it didnít get better by itself.

I got a new MRI and started going to as many doctors as I could. Several doctors miss diagnoses my MRI. Some of them wanted to do everything form fusions to disks replacements. They all showed me on the MRI what my problem was and why they needed to do what they wanted to do. And, they were all wrong or lying. When I finally got an agreement from two different doctors (that did not know each other) I picked the best doctor and went with him. I did not make a mistake and still consider myself lucky to have found him.

Itís not a pretty picture. I know the suffering evolved. You have to remain diligent in finding the real problem with your wifeís back. Donít let the first doctor that says he can fix it take over your decisions for you.

Good luck.

erp7e
08-03-2004, 07:51 PM
The magnets do nothing, unfortunately.

There's a lot that can be done in the way of physical therapy and the modalities Will mentioned, etc.

No comment on military docs. :) Find a good one, even if you have to private pay. No one should live in pain.

alanjlamore
08-04-2004, 01:20 AM
Thanks again Will and thanks Ray and Erp.

I just got a new job starting next week so I can get non-military based insurance and some new docs to look at my wife's back.

Hopefully the insurance can pay for most of it, but like erp said I might have to pay out of pocket.

My father had 2 slipped discs in his back and had surgery for it, but still has some pain. The thing that helps him the most is stretching, but my wife's pain is probably a lot different than his.

She tried physical therapy at home and in a pool for a while before she got her MRI and she still has a lot of pain. I'm going to try the temperpedic bed and maybe one of the weightless chairs and see if that helps.

I also try telling her not to hold our daughter (9 months) too long since she holds her a lot more than me and my back aches a little from holding her.

Massages seemed to help a little for a short period of time, along with the muscle relaxing drug she was prescribed, but she doesn't like being on any drug too long. She was actually prescribed a muscle relaxer and pain killer both while she was pregnant, which we both didn't like at all since the doctor never told us about any side effects that the baby could experience. We had to find a lot of info ourselfs from webMD.

She's also getting back into working out so that might help too.

Thanks again,