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WillBrink
11-19-2005, 03:59 PM
Eric, I responded to your email but it's bouncing back:

"[email protected]>
Permanent Failure: 550_Command_RCPT_User_<[email protected]>_not_OK
Delivery last attempted at Sat, 19 Nov 2005 14:35:29 -0000"


Here's my response to your question:


"Eric. I graduated from Harvard University with a concentration in the
natural sciences, which was basically a liberal arts degree with a science
focus. It was basically a pre med focus (as I was considering going to med
school) with additional chem. Did some graduate work, but didn't finish a
graduate degree. Not sure if I ever will. I am one of those people who has
enough credits for like 2 masters degrees having gone to like 4 colleges,
but took forever to just finish a degree off. See you on the forum."

alwaysimprove
11-24-2005, 04:05 PM
That's weird that my e-mail isn't working for you... I sometimes have trouble sending to people with "aol" e-mail addresses, what can you do with free e-mails...

Very interesting. Almost sound like me only I never even finished a bachelors degree, I just keep bouncing from here to there, it almost feels like I am going to be a student (part time anyways) for life...

elissalowe
11-24-2005, 05:32 PM
Very interesting. Almost sound like me only I never even finished a bachelors degree, I just keep bouncing from here to there, it almost feels like I am going to be a student (part time anyways) for life...
I "stopped out" for 2+ years after 3+ years as a Bio Sci major - I was in a panic because I was getting close to graduating and still didn't know how to do anything! :rolleyes: College seemed completely meaningless: it was about memorizing facts and taking exams, and I was bored out of my skull with the whole thing.

Ironically, when I returned, my intent was to simply get the credential and move on. But along the way I fell in love with the process...I went on to grad school, and even after getting a "real" job (staff researcher), I continued to take classes. In fact, I've done that on and off over the years: when we moved here to OH, I took online and extension classes through the local CC in programming (VB, C++, Java), HTML, and JavaScript - just for fun.

IMO, there's nothing wrong with being a "student...for life." While it's not necessary for learning, taking classes is a great framework for learning. But focusing on something long enough to get the credential is important: it can open a lot of doors without necessarily tying you down to the discipline you received it in. What you have your degree in is ultimately less important than the fact that you have one.

JHalstead
11-25-2005, 03:39 AM
Mmm, VB, C++, Java, HTML...mmmmmmm

elissalowe
11-25-2005, 02:39 PM
Mmm, VB, C++, Java, HTML...mmmmmmm
LOL - not that I ever got very far past the playing-around stage... :rolleyes:

Example: http://my.erinet.com/~johnlowe/final/project3.html

JHalstead
11-25-2005, 03:01 PM
That's further in Java than I ever went... but that's okay, I never cared for Java much. I'm more of a traditional compiled language kind of guy. Although I do like ASP.NET, I must confess.

erp7e
11-27-2005, 07:39 AM
I feel like it's great to be a student for life in terms of lifelong learning, but I also feel it's important to pick some direction and go with it. Otherwise it's forever "coulda, shoulda, woulda." I feel like you eventually have to pick something and go with it. You can always change your mind later, but after awhile pondering your choices becomes loafing and bullshitting.

I certainly changed directions many times. In high school, I'd rather not comment on what I was trying to become (dead, I think?). In college, I went from wanting to be an architect, to a civil engineer (that idea ended QUICKLY), to an athletic trainer, to a physical therapist, to an exercise physiologist, before finally realizing late in my junior year that I am supposed to be a physician (tongue firmly in cheek). In medical school I bounced between endocrinology, cardiology, neurology, orthopedics, anaesthesiology, and emergency medicine before realizing I am clearly cut out for physical medicine and rehabilitation (to my credit, I didn't even know these physicians existed until well into my second year of medical school).

So I'm not badmouthing considering all your options - just that you eventually need to find something, and then decide to excel at it. If it sucks and you aren't happy, then do something else. To use a cheesy metaphor, it's like if you are at a bar and see several attractive girls. If you never decide which one to talk to before closing, you will leave without talking to any of them.

This is my straightforward, type-A personality speaking, and I understand that neither my opinion, career biography, nor bar tactics were ever solicited, but I thought I'd share them anyway. And what the hell is VB and ASP.NET? Well at least I have switched from floppy disks to a flash drive.

JHalstead
11-27-2005, 01:52 PM
LMAO. Erp! They are programming languages. 4th level stuff, high language.

And I prefer wireless networking to a physical storage medium whenever possible. :)

And since you jumped in, I'll be finishing up my bachelor's in October and I'm trying to figure out where to go after that. Another bachelor's in something else, or pushing for a masters in something or other. All I know is that I will be continuing my education.

erp7e
11-27-2005, 06:43 PM
Always continue your education, be it formally through school or beyond that. When you stop learning you stop living (cheesy metaphor #2 - I'm unstoppable! ;) ).