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plague
01-08-2006, 12:56 AM
Man, I am getting so sick of people accusing me of juicing because all of a sudden for the last couple of months or so my strength continually increases. It could not be due to changes in training or nutrition or extensive studying and reading or reasearch, I mean actual WORK/EFFORT!! :mad:

Its like a bulb lit up in my head recently, like I am really in tune with my body now and seem to know what works. I can feel the exact muscle I am hitting and am suppsoed to hit when I am training. Its as if at that time it is the only muscle I have is the one (or more) I am training. Its called focus.

Let me be clear, have I tried steroids? Yes, sure. ALot of people have.
Did I get much benefit from it? Not really other than a constant erection. :cool:

Am I against them? No of course not. I have just decided they are not for me and when I did do them it was for a short period and really gains would not have been expected in the timeframe I did them.

I currently only take creatine and whey powder for supps, that's it. I have changed my training to more of a strength training focus rather than bodybuilding because BB takes a tremendous amount of dedication to diet, and I just cant do it, it does not fit my lifestyle. So strength it is.

Sorry for the rant but it is getting tiring. Probably jealousy I guess because they are not improving. The funny thing is, in the big scheme of things, in terms of powerlifting I am not that strong, but yet I am one of the stronger people in my gym.

/rant

Andrew_389
01-09-2006, 07:01 PM
Plague, looking large my friend. Keep up the great work!!!!

Natural gains that elicit a 'he's juicing' buzz is not a bad problem to have at all...

Simon
01-09-2006, 07:12 PM
Yup sad but true, when I was dead serious with my training and considerably bigger than my photo all I took was 20 dianabol a day and... nah kidding, back in those days, it was literally just 20 rep squats, deads, bench and military press combined with 3 crappy tasting vanilla shakes with 8 whole eggs in each

I gained about 20 lbs in 2 months and was young enough that most of it was muscle , I was constantly defending the steroids cry..

In the end much as Andew just said, I took it as a compliment..

JHalstead
01-09-2006, 08:24 PM
The best man in my wedding was up visiting a little while ago and we hooked up for an afternoon. The first thing he did when he saw me was turn to his girlfriend and say, "Honey, we've got to help Jason out and get him off the steroids!"

He was joking around mostly, but I took it as a warm fuzzy feeling in spite of that. But then again, I've never heard that from anyone / anywhere else so I can't say I've got much experience with it.

My resolution to avoid running into that problem though is to build your own gym. Works great for me and I have gotten bigger and better by far since I did it.

sstewart81
01-10-2006, 12:51 AM
I currently only take creatine and whey powder for supps, that's it. I have changed my training to more of a strength training focus rather than bodybuilding because BB takes a tremendous amount of dedication to diet, and I just cant do it, it does not fit my lifestyle. So strength it is.


I work with a lot of people who never even think about stepping foot in a gym, and the bad part is when I tell them I use creatine and whey protein, they always ask "Aren't they steroids?". I've explained many times that they aren't even related, but they never listen. Selective hearing. Eventually I just get tired of explaining and just answer with a quick "No". :(

Congrats on your gains!

JP
01-10-2006, 01:28 AM
Plague,
Your posts have been quite inspiring/entertaining for me lately! I would describe myself as "endomorphic" .... I'm with you, give me strength over definition anyday...but I would still like that V taper damn it! My biggest problem is my employer (Air Force) loves "skinny fat guys", or as I refer to them, pencil necked runners. So I get mandatory 1 hour cardio a minimum 3 times a week...what a pain in the ass. Sometimes gets in the way of what I'm trying to achieve... :mad: Sounds like you have moved off a plateau and are making quality gains. Anyone who's been at this any time at all knows thats how it works - peaks and plateaus. Keep up the awesome work!

For the record JHalstead, I understand the working out at home thing, but I'm one of those guys that learns alot by watching others with impeccable form, etc. If you all workout at home, I'm stuck with the losers!!

plague
01-10-2006, 04:50 AM
Plague, looking large my friend. Keep up the great work!!!!

Natural gains that elicit a 'he's juicing' buzz is not a bad problem to have at all...

Geez, you're looking pretty sharp there Andrew. Good stuff. I wish I had the discipline to lean out like that.


Thanks guys. Ya, you're right, I should take it with a grain of salt. fook em as they say!

plague
01-10-2006, 05:15 AM
[QUOTE=JP]Plague,
Your posts have been quite inspiring/entertaining for me lately! I would describe myself as "endomorphic" .... I'm with you, give me strength over definition anyday...but I would still like that V taper damn it!

Keep up the awesome work! [QUOTE]

Well, theres a first. Thanks for the compliments. Good training to you.

JP
01-11-2006, 08:59 PM
And to you, thanks!

JHalstead
01-11-2006, 09:31 PM
For the record JHalstead, I understand the working out at home thing, but I'm one of those guys that learns alot by watching others with impeccable form, etc. If you all workout at home, I'm stuck with the losers!!

Heh, that figures. Their are 3 people in the gym I used to go to that had awesome form. Two were powerlifters and the third was this whee thing of a girl that made everybody in the gym, man or woman, stop and stare in awe when she did squats. It was a beautiful thing... not her body, mind you, but her form was just that much better than anything else any of us had ever seen.

rbtrout
01-12-2006, 12:54 AM
I understand about the juice. I put an inch on shoulders, quads and my upper traps popped up to being more noticeable in just 2 months. I was accused of juicing. CEE (monohydrate makes me sick), protein, multi-vitamin and some glutamine is about all I take. I ate like a horse and trained even harder. I take it as a compliment. My nephew brags to his friends (25 year olds) that tell him once you're over 40 you can't add muscle naturally. He brings 'em by the office to meet me. It's pretty cool. Some even brag about how strong they are.....I just ask them to out squat or out deadlift me. They always back down.
Form, you ask? I'm usually the one stressing the guys at the gym to use proper form. No one listens, they all tell me I shouldn't do the lifts I do and all of them look exactly like they did 1 year ago......enough said.

JP
01-12-2006, 01:12 AM
Generally speaking, I like to think my form is pretty tight... :o I really don't like performing a lift and feeling it where I shouldn't (back, shoulders, etc)..And I kinda pride myself on never [email protected]#kin up my back.. I'm big on stickin the old ass out there and head up, seems to keep that "athletic stance" in squats, deads,etc. I credit my high school football coach with teaching perfect squat form - we used squat boxes, etc; cleans too .. this guy was a retired SEAL with thighs the size of oak trees...Nowadays, I see these younger dudes in the gym, slappin on the plates..back all bowed up, bouncin the bar off the chest, all contorted, jerkin around.. but the thing that pisses me off the most are the idiots droppin the dumbells 5 ft off the floor at the end of a set. Retards. :mad: /rant

TreeSlayer
01-12-2006, 01:21 AM
Man, I am getting so sick of people accusing me of juicing because all of a sudden for the last couple of months or so my strength continually increases. It could not be due to changes in training or nutrition or extensive studying and reading or reasearch, I mean actual WORK/EFFORT!! :mad:

Its like a bulb lit up in my head recently, like I am really in tune with my body now and seem to know what works. I can feel the exact muscle I am hitting and am suppsoed to hit when I am training. Its as if at that time it is the only muscle I have is the one (or more) I am training. Its called focus.

Let me be clear, have I tried steroids? Yes, sure. ALot of people have.
Did I get much benefit from it? Not really other than a constant erection. :cool:

Am I against them? No of course not. I have just decided they are not for me and when I did do them it was for a short period and really gains would not have been expected in the timeframe I did them.

I currently only take creatine and whey powder for supps, that's it. I have changed my training to more of a strength training focus rather than bodybuilding because BB takes a tremendous amount of dedication to diet, and I just cant do it, it does not fit my lifestyle. So strength it is.

Sorry for the rant but it is getting tiring. Probably jealousy I guess because they are not improving. The funny thing is, in the big scheme of things, in terms of powerlifting I am not that strong, but yet I am one of the stronger people in my gym.

/rant
Dang, Man! Feel good about it! I'm still a fat a$$ and I got accused of it! Made me feel good, knowing better. I feel I have an advantage over my peers, because they won't even try! It's good to know hard work and persistence pays off. I considerate the hard work a competetive advantage in life and career. Keep it up!